Subject: Re: OT Critter Trouble
Author: zob
Date: 19 Jul
Ref:

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 02:24:47 -0600, "Suzanne D." <sdallape@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>So we've had our little problems with giant monster roaches in the last
>month or two. No biggie. Roaches don't hurt nobody, and these are outdoor
>summer roaches that will go away when the weather changes anyway. And maybe
>now and then we get the occasional earwig or cricket; nothing too wild. All
>controllable with a squirt of Fantastik, if we even want to bother killing
>them at all.
>
>Today, we noticed a few daddy longlegs up near the ceiling in the living
>room. Then we saw a few more. So for fun the kids and I started to go
>around the house upstairs to count the spiders! At the end of the run, we
>came up with 25. One in the bathtub, and the rest on the walls near the
>ceilings. Mainly daddy longlegs; a few common house spiders. We laughed
>about it, and I said I should go downstairs to see what the population was
>down there. But I didn't bother, and soon forgot about it.
>
>Oh no, that's not the critter trouble I was talking about. Keep reading.
>
>Tonight (Wednesday), I happened to be downstairs for some reason or other,
>and glanced toward the window well. (Let me interject here that our
>"downstairs" is the finished basement, where our family room is. We rarely
>go down there now that Ewan has trouble going up and down stairs, so it's
>mainly a place for Karrde to make his wine. The two family room windows are
>set into "window wells," which are big hollow areas on the outside of the
>window. You have probably seen them before--they are your basic nice
>basement windows.)
>
>Welp, as I glanced over to the window, I spotted a huge black widow spider!
>It was in the well, so it was technically OUTSIDE of the house, but still a
>little too close for comfort. I figured I'd keep an eye on it over the next
>few days, and maybe get something to spray it with soon. As I was thinking
>this, I glanced to a different area in the same well and saw...
>
>...another huge black widow spider. Two. Well, this could be a problem.
>Especially since this one had somehow made her way to the area between the
>window and the screen. Yep, should we get the urge to open the window,
>there you go.
>
>Then I noticed the egg sacs. Lots of egg sacs. Big, huge egg sacs, like
>3/4 of an inch across.
>
>Then I noticed a smaller spider, inside. On the windowsill itself, where
>you often find spiders. A small spider, dark brown, with some white
>markings on it...but the exact same shape as a black widow. And in a ragged
>web, just like a black widow. And with some exoskeletons right next to
>it--two or three of them. Meaning it had shed several times recently.
>Meaning it was a juvenile. Meaning that it didn't necessarily have to look
>like its adult form. Meaning it was probably a young black widow.
>
>So off to the internet I go, to look up pictures of juvenile black widders.
>Turns out we have a young female, right in the house. WELL! I dispatched
>of THAT one quite quickly with a ton of Fantastik. It usually doesn't work
>very well on spiders, but I drowned the poor thing. So maybe it didn't die
>from the Fantastik itself, but from drowning. I don't know, and I don't
>care.
>
>Then I went to the other window. In the well, two more huge black widows.
>Maybe more; it was hard to see in the dark. And more egg sacs. I think I
>counted about a dozen egg sacs altogether between the two windows.
>
>I went back to the first window, and saw ANOTHER young spider INSIDE the
>house, and yes, having done my research, it was a young female black widow.
>Again, I obliterated this one with Fantastik too.
>
>So needless to say, tomorrow (Thursday) I am going to buy some heavy-duty
>poison. Yes, you read that right. I'd never use Raid on something silly
>like crickets or roaches--they don't hurt anyone, so poison is overkill.
>But black widows? In my house? Oh yeah. I am going to read the labels of
>various insecticides and find one that does particularly well against black
>widows, and figure out some way to get it down there. I don't want to get
>too close from outside (damn, what if there are more further away from the
>window--more toward the outside?), and I obviously don't want to open the
>windows either--the double whammy of letting poison inside the house AND the
>spider(s) being on the inside of the screen! So I have no idea what I am
>going to do, but six black widows and twelve egg sacs are a little too much,
>even for me.
>
>Get out yer gas mask!
>--S.
>
>P.S. In addition to all the spiders, there was a medium-sized praying mantis
>in one of the window wells. Karrde asked which would win THAT fight! I'm
>inclined to say the mantis, but I'd still sacrifice one mantis to poison if
>I need to.
>
Suzanne,don't you live in the West? I know that Black Widows are
prevalent here in the South, but I didn't know that they were common
in the west. Learn something every day.

I wonder what is bringing all the arachnids and daddy longlegs in your
house all of a sudden? I'm not one to be spooked by spiders (my
phobia is snakes), but I'd sure want to get rid of them.
I got a laugh out of you using Fantastik to kill the black widow. It
reminded me of the movie, "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" where the Greek
father thought that Windex was the cure for everything!

Good luck getting rid of your new family members!
---
Zob


OT Critter Trouble
18 JulSuzanne D.
18 Jul|- Peach
18 Jul|  \ Suzanne D.
18 Jul|     |- Peach
18 Jul|     |  |- Nathan Sanders
19 Jul|     |  |  \ zob
19 Jul|     |  |     \ Vandar
19 Jul|     |  \ Suzanne D.
19 Jul|     |     \ Peach
19 Jul|     |        \ Suzanne D.
20 Jul|     |           |- Peach
21 Jul|     |           \ Locutus
21 Jul|     |              |- callenmolenda@…
21 Jul|     |              \ Peach
18 Jul|     \ fmomoon
18 Jul|        |- Suzanne D.
19 Jul|        |  \ fmomoon
18 Jul|        \ Vandar
19 Jul|           \ fmomoon
18 Jul|- Nancy2
18 Jul|  |- Seerialmom
18 Jul|  |- Suzanne D.
18 Jul|  |  \ Tin@
18 Jul|  |     \ Suzanne D.
18 Jul|  |        |- Tin@
19 Jul|  |        |  \ Suzanne D.
19 Jul|  |        |     \ Tin@
19 Jul|  |        |        |- Cure_Ewan
19 Jul|  |        |        |  \ Tin@
19 Jul|  |        |        |     \ Cure_Ewan
19 Jul|  |        |        |        |- Tin@
20 Jul|  |        |        |        |  \ Cure_Ewan
20 Jul|  |        |        |        |     \ Tin@
20 Jul|  |        |        |        |        |- Cure_Ewan
20 Jul|  |        |        |        |        |  \ Tin@
20 Jul|  |        |        |        |        |     |- Cure_Ewan
20 Jul|  |        |        |        |        |     |  \ Tin@
20 Jul|  |        |        |        |        |     |     \ Cure_Ewan
20 Jul|  |        |        |        |        |     |        \ Tin@
20 Jul|  |        |        |        |        |     |           |- Suzanne D.
20 Jul|  |        |        |        |        |     |           |  \ Tin@
21 Jul|  |        |        |        |        |     |           \ Cure_Ewan
21 Jul|  |        |        |        |        |     |              \ Tin@
21 Jul|  |        |        |        |        |     |                 |- Locutus
21 Jul|  |        |        |        |        |     |                 |  \ Tin@
27 Jul|  |        |        |        |        |     |                 \ Cure_Ewan
20 Jul|  |        |        |        |        |     \ Suzanne D.
20 Jul|  |        |        |        |        |        \ Tin@
21 Jul|  |        |        |        |        |           \ Suzanne D.
20 Jul|  |        |        |        |        \ Suzanne D.
20 Jul|  |        |        |        |           \ Tin@
20 Jul|  |        |        |        |              |- Cure_Ewan
20 Jul|  |        |        |        |              |  \ Tin@
20 Jul|  |        |        |        |              |     \ Cure_Ewan
20 Jul|  |        |        |        |              |        \ Tin@
20 Jul|  |        |        |        |              \ Suzanne D.
19 Jul|  |        |        |        \ Suzanne D.
19 Jul|  |        |        |           \ Tin@
19 Jul|  |        |        \ Suzanne D.
19 Jul|  |        |           |- Tin@
19 Jul|  |        |           |  \ Suzanne D.
19 Jul|  |        |           \ zob
19 Jul|  |        |              \ callenmolenda@…
19 Jul|  |        |- crystaline
19 Jul|  |        |  \ Suzanne D.
20 Jul|  |        |     \ Cure_Ewan
20 Jul|  |        |        \ Suzanne D.
23 Jul|  |        \ CatNipped
23 Jul|  |           \ Suzanne D.
23 Jul|  |              |- Tin@
23 Jul|  |              |  \ Suzanne D.
23 Jul|  |              |     \ Tin@
24 Jul|  |              \ CatNipped
27 Jul|  |                 \ Cure_Ewan
18 Jul|  \ fmomoon
18 Jul|- daveparks
18 Jul|  |- SLGreg
18 Jul|  |  |- SLGreg
18 Jul|  |  |  |- Nathan Sanders
18 Jul|  |  |  \ Nancy2
18 Jul|  |  |     \ Vandar
18 Jul|  |  \ daveparks
18 Jul|  \ Nancy2
18 Jul|- fmomoon
18 Jul|  |- Vandar
18 Jul|  |  |- fmomoon
18 Jul|  |  \ Suzanne D.
18 Jul|  |- Suzanne D.
21 Jul|  \ dixichik
21 Jul|     \ fmomoon
19 Jul|- zob
19 Jul|  |- Suzanne D.
19 Jul|  |  \ fmomoon
19 Jul|  |     |- Suzanne D.
19 Jul|  |     |  \ SLGreg
19 Jul|  |     |     \ Suzanne D.
19 Jul|  |     |        |- SLGreg
19 Jul|  |     |        |  \ Suzanne D.
20 Jul|  |     |        |     \ Cure_Ewan
20 Jul|  |     |        |        \ azurespirit
20 Jul|  |     |        |           |- Cure_Ewan
21 Jul|  |     |        |           \ dixichik
19 Jul|  |     |        \ fmomoon
20 Jul|  |     |           \ azurespirit
20 Jul|  |     |              \ Suzanne D.
20 Jul|  |     |                 \ azurespirit
19 Jul|  |     \ SLGreg
19 Jul|  |        |- Suzanne D.
19 Jul|  |        |  \ SLGreg
20 Jul|  |        |     \ Suzanne D.
19 Jul|  |        \ fmomoon
20 Jul|  |           \ Suzanne D.
20 Jul|  |              |- Cure_Ewan
20 Jul|  |              \ fmomoon
19 Jul|  |- Tin@
24 Jul|  \ CatNipped
OT Critter Trouble UPDATE
19 Jul\ Suzanne D.
20 Jul   \ Cure_Ewan
20 Jul      |- Suzanne D.
20 Jul      \ fmomoon
20 Jul         |- Nathan Sanders
20 Jul         |  |- azurespirit
20 Jul         |  |  \ Nathan Sanders
21 Jul         |  |     |- fmomoon
21 Jul         |  |     |  |- Nathan Sanders
21 Jul         |  |     |  |  \ fmomoon
21 Jul         |  |     |  |     |- Nathan Sanders
21 Jul         |  |     |  |     |  \ fmomoon
21 Jul         |  |     |  |     \ XAN
21 Jul         |  |     |  |        \ fmomoon
21 Jul         |  |     |  |           \ XAN
21 Jul         |  |     |  |              \ fmomoon
21 Jul         |  |     |  |- Vandar
21 Jul         |  |     |  |  \ fmomoon
21 Jul         |  |     |  \ Peach
21 Jul         |  |     |     \ fmomoon
21 Jul         |  |     \ Cure_Ewan
21 Jul         |  \ fmomoon
21 Jul         |     \ Patt B.
21 Jul         |        \ fmomoon
21 Jul         \ Cure_Ewan
21 Jul            |- fmomoon
21 Jul            \ callenmolenda@…
27 Jul               \ Cure_Ewan