> On Jul 21, 7:01 am, "Newk Indofman" <newk.indof...@lovesyou.org>
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> > "daveparks" <daveparks...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >news:b1af5178-8082-4b00-8ba8-ede089e7c70b@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
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> > > On Jul 20, 4:32 pm, "Newk Indofman" <newk.indof...@lovesyou.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >> "daveparks" <daveparks...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > >>news:af549750-e347-4234-820e-6a4a7d0bee9b@v1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
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> > >> > On Jul 20, 9:30 am, "Newk Indofman" <newk.indof...@lovesyou.org>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >> "daveparks" <daveparks...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > >> >>news:804c049d-69a8-4266-8fe7-2e726fd25e8b@q5g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
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> > >> >> > On Jul 18, 5:12 pm, "Newk Indofman" <newk.indof...@lovesyou.org>
> > >> >> > wrote:
> > >> >> >> "daveparks" <daveparks...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > >> >> >>news:2d1ee890-a929-4e39-9f6a-f60ebe6060ec@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
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> > >> >> >> > I didn't ask if a swift execution was more humane that throwing
> > >> >> >> > her
> > >> >> >> > in
> > >> >> >> > a dumpster - I asked, if a swift execution was more humane that
> > >> >> >> > forcibly confining someone in a small cell for 40yrs?
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> > >> >> >> There is an easy answer to that, is there?
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> > >> >> > So you are for capital punishment?
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> > >> >> I meant to type, "there is *no* easy answer"
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> > >> >> No, in general I am opposed to capital punishment. However, a swift
> > >> >> execution is probably more "humane" than 40 years of torturous
> > >> >> isolation.
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> > >> > But if you're opposed to the DP 'and' consider sentencing the guilty
> > >> > to a life of forced confinement in a small cell as inhumane, what do
> > >> > you pose we do with someone like Atkins?
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> > >> I stated that as a hypothetical situation. I don't think that Atkins'
> > >> confinement or her sentence has been inhumane, especially after reviewing
> > >> a
> > >> history of her life in prison. She should remain in prison until her
> > >> death.
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> > > So you don't believe in capital punishment but are accepting of it so
> > > long as it is swift - and you approve of life imprisonment, so long as
> > > it doesn't consist of years of "torturous isolation", in which case
> > > you're instead accepting of the swift execution?
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> > That's accurate -- in a simplistic, literalist kind of way.
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> > > Way to stand by that
> > > moral code of yours.
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> > I don't believe I stated what my moral code was. I want to say that I
> > believe in mercy. Morality is a complex and gray area once you start talking
> > about real situations.
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> > > It would seem that you're against what prison system is supposed to
> > > represent, *punishment* of the guilty.
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> > You're putting words in my mouth,
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> That seems to happen a lot in this group. People decide that you said
> something that you never ever even implied.
> > with absolutely no nuance. There are no
> > easy, one-size-fits-all answers.
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> > Prison systems in the US have two aims, which tend to clash. It is supposed
> > to be punishment, but it is also supposed to be, at least in theory,
> > rehabilitative. Depending on the individual institutions, there are lots of
> > opportunities for prisoners to get involved in positive activities. And
> > there are lots of examples of that. Even so, I agree that Atkins should not
> > ever be paroled, given the nature of her crimes.- Hide quoted text -
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