Subject: Re: OT - Some things, you never forget.....or forgive
Author: daveparks
Date: 18 Jul
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On Jul 18, 12:20 pm, "Newk Indofman" <newk.indof...@lovesyou.org>
wrote:
> "daveparks" <daveparks...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:44754e9b-70a9-4b3f-a1b4-ec639831a4d4@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Jul 18, 10:50 am, "Newk Indofman" <newk.indof...@lovesyou.org>
> > wrote:
> >> "Thanatos" <atro...@mac.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:atropos-952E21.09374318072008@news.giganews.com...
>
> >> > In article <dpadneWZscpYDR3VnZ2dnUVZ_vedn...@comcast.com>,
> >> > "Newk Indofman" <newk.indof...@lovesyou.org> wrote:
>
> >> >> "Vandar" <vanda...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >>news:AcVfk.104856$c5.59287@fe101.usenetserver.com...
> >> >> > Newk Indofman wrote:
> >> >> >> "Vandar" <vanda...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >>news:LERfk.2428$Jz4.26@fe085.usenetserver.com...
>
> >> >> >>>Thanatos wrote:
>
> >> >> >>>>In article <emRfk.2426$Jz4.1...@fe085.usenetserver.com>,
> >> >> >>>> Vandar <vanda...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> >>>>>Thanatos wrote:
>
> >> >> >>>>>>In article <g5nnrj0...@news5.newsguy.com>,
> >> >> >>>>>>"Sanna" <sanna_onaneedtoknowbasiso...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> >>>>>>>Vandar wrote:
>
> >> >> >>>>>>>>OJ not being convicted doesn't mean Susan Atkins should be set
> >> >> >>>>>>>>free.
> >> >> >>>>>>>>She was convicted of participating in eight murders and
> >> >> >>>>>>>>originally
> >> >> >>>>>>>>sentenced to death. At no point should she ever see the world
> >> >> >>>>>>>>outside of a prison cell. To hell with her. I hope she's in
> >> >> >>>>>>>>pain.
>
> >> >> >>>>>>>She bragged about killing Tate and her baby and even admitted
> >> >> >>>>>>>that
> >> >> >>>>>>>she kept stabbing her because she was sick and tired of hearing
> >> >> >>>>>>>her
> >> >> >>>>>>>begging and pleading for her life and the life of her baby. In
> >> >> >>>>>>>the
> >> >> >>>>>>>40 years since the murders she has *yet* to show any remorse.
> >> >> >>>>>>>I
> >> >> >>>>>>>don't know how anyone could even consider giving her a
> >> >> >>>>>>>compassionate
> >> >> >>>>>>>release. Being alive in prison is a helluva lot more
> >> >> >>>>>>>comfortable
> >> >> >>>>>>>than where she's going.
>
> >> >> >>>>>>The only way I'd consider it is if it was clear she wasn't going
> >> >> >>>>>>to
> >> >> >>>>>>get any taxpayer-funded medical assistance on the outside. As it
> >> >> >>>>>>is,
> >> >> >>>>>>we're footing the bill for her better-than-average medical care
> >> >> >>>>>>inside
> >> >> >>>>>>the prison.
>
> >> >> >>>>>>Let her out and let her rot in a pool of her own filth.
>
> >> >> >>>>>She isn't in a prison hospital. She's in a hospital "near the
> >> >> >>>>>prison".
> >> >> >>>>>To date, it has cost taxpayers $1.5 million for her medical care
> >> >> >>>>>and
> >> >> >>>>>another $300k for the guards outside her door since she was sent
> >> >> >>>>>there
> >> >> >>>>>in March.
>
> >> >> >>>>My point exactly.
>
> >> >> >>>Yup. As far as I'm concerned, they should pull the tubes, cancel
> >> >> >>>the
> >> >> >>>medication, tell the guards to go home, and toss her in the
> >> >> >>>dumpster
> >> >> >>>out
> >> >> >>>back. Check on her every couple of hours to see if she's still
> >> >> >>>alive,
> >> >> >>>and
> >> >> >>>when she's dead, call the sanitation company to come empty the
> >> >> >>>dumpster.
>
> >> >> >> That would make their actions no better than hers, right?
>
> >> >> > She would have a natural death, unlike the people she killed.
>
> >> >> Intentionally tossing a gravely sick person in a dumpster to hasten
> >> >> her
> >> >> death is intentional, at least for civilized people who claim to have
> >> >> a
> >> >> moral code.
>
> >> > So leave out the dumpster. There's no reason the public coffers should
> >> > be drained to string along the vegetative remains of some unrepentant
> >> > psychopath.
>
> >> The prinicples of the US justice system are supposed to involve *humane*
> >> treatment of criminals, because allegedly, we are a *humane* people. If
> >> the
> >> *cruel and unusual* is what you would prefer, perhaps you should go live
> >> under the rule of the Taliban, where you'll feel more at home.
>
> > Would not the *humane* thing to have done with this woman been a just
> > and swift execution, per the sentence of the jury in her trial -
> > instead of forced imprisonment and confined to a small jail cell for
> > almost 40yrs?
>
> Although I don't believe in capital punishment, a swift execution would be
> more humane than throwing her in a dumpster to slowly die while vengeful,
> blood-thirsty vigilantes look on with pleasure and perverse satisfaction.

I didn't ask if a swift execution was more humane that throwing her in
a dumpster - I asked, if a swift execution was more humane that
forcibly confining someone in a small cell for 40yrs?


> > Would a *humane* society even allow that of animals?
>
> >> > If she or her family can afford their own care, great. If
> >> > not, well those are the consequences of deciding to gleefully gut a
> >> > pregnant woman.



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